Ruby On Rails

Posted by Joshua in Technology on February 19, 2009

Hola, been awhile since I posted on my blog.  Been a bit busy ;)

At any rate, got a quick question on the advantages of Ruby On Rails... vs. say using Coldfusion?   Any takers on enlightening on why I would move over to RoR if I already know and use CF?

  1. Adrian J. Moreno

    #1 by Adrian J. Moreno - February 19, 2009 at 7:54 AM

    You don't have to necessarily "move over" to RoR, but learning it wouldn't be a bad thing if you've got the time. Learning any new language will help you one way or another. I've never used RoR myself, but I know people who have and they love it. You might also (or instead) look at Groovy as many people are using it in conjunction with ColdFusion to create some pretty robust applications.
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  2. Raul Riera

    #2 by Raul Riera - February 19, 2009 at 7:57 AM

    Are you using RoR for the framework or for Ruby? If you are using it for Rails, then you should compare it to the other ColdFusion frameworks and not to the ColdFusion language.
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  3. Tim Price

    #3 by Tim Price - February 19, 2009 at 8:25 AM

    You could move to RoR if you are bored writing scalable enterprise strength web applications with ColdFusion. I hear Ruby developers have a lot more fun dealing with outages and creating trendy graphics like the fail whale.
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  4. radekg

    #4 by radekg - February 19, 2009 at 9:01 AM

    @Tim Price: and what makes you think you're right? Name at least one app written in CF that is as huge as twitter.
    btw: Joshua just asks a question. Do you think it is that strange that someone wants to learn other language?
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  5. johnb

    #5 by johnb - February 19, 2009 at 9:08 AM

    Joshua,
    You'll find that asking any questions about RoR people always raise the point of scaling and cite examples like Twitter - it's usually the uneducated people that immediately blame the language/framework and not the core infrastructure that's underneath - and let's not forget about CF and mySpace shall we? Do you honestly think ColdFusion could support running Twitter on the shere scale even more so someone afford the ColdFusion licenses?

    All I can say is that in the 6 months I've been playing with RoR it's been an absolute joy and the more I spend doing it the more I find coding ColdFusion to be a chore.

    At the end of the day, take a look at RoR and make your own mind up - and take with a pinch of salt fanboy-esque comments that you're gonna hear.
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  6. Craig Kaminsky

    #6 by Craig Kaminsky - February 19, 2009 at 9:17 AM

    Joshua,

    In my desire to expand my languages past CF and PHP, I've been working on both RoR and Groovy/Grails the past few months. I think both language/framework sets are a lot of fun to code. I think Ruby and Rails would be a nice compliment to your CF skills and that it's always a great idea to learn new tools.

    In terms of RoR advantages, I've found that (as you become increasingly knowledgeable in it) development time is significantly decreased, maintenance is pretty easy to deal with (mostly because of the test-driven aspects of Rails), and it's quite robust.

    That said, do take a look at Groovy/Grails. Groovy seems to be where a lot of hard-core CF houses and top CF developers are going (Alagad, Broadchoice). While my experience with Groovy/Grails is still very limited, I can see why it's gaining in popularity in the CF community. The fact that Groovy is Java means there is a lot you can do with it and CF, whereas Ruby/Rails will clearly move you away from a CF environment.

    Good luck!
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  7. Raul Riera

    #7 by Raul Riera - February 19, 2009 at 9:55 AM

    CFML != ROR

    CFML = Ruby
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  8. Joshua

    #8 by Joshua - February 19, 2009 at 10:57 AM

    Thanks for the feedback guys, Looks like I need to play around with it and make up my own mind. I havent touched Groovy. Sounds like I should check that out as well.
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  9. dinoYT

    #9 by dinoYT - May 15, 2009 at 12:40 AM

    The benefit for us CFML developers is in the greater adoption that Railo and OpenBD can bring to CFML as a language and community. For Adobe http://rapid4me.com/?q=Adobe, I think the profit lies in Bolt (or whatever it will be called). Assuming a greater number of CF users, the need for a standard IDE increases (no knock on CFEclipse...I love and use it daily).
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